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Appearing alongside the Rev. Bill Davis, the host of \u201cLeading Theologically,\u201d celebrated author, musician and speaker \ub370\uc774\ube44\ub4dc \ub77c\ubaa8\ud2b8<\/a> continued building on themes of collaboration he laid down during a viral TEDx talk delivered by LaMotte and broadcast in July<\/a> on the most recent edition of \u201cLeading Theologically,\u201d which dropped Monday. The two also discussed making peace, using common language and highlighting upcoming projects during a 27-minute conversation that can be heard \uc5ec\uae30<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Davis is Senior Director of \uc2e0\ud559\uad50\uc721 \uae30\uae08 \uac1c\ubc1c<\/a> at the Presbyterian Foundation. LaMotte\u2019s TEDx talk, available \uc5ec\uae30<\/a>, has been viewed more than 52,000 times. During that talk, LaMotte, of Black Mountain, North Carolina, downplays the commonly held idea of a superhero saving the day. Instead, it\u2019s committees, made up of people who make plans, execute and evaluate, that often bring about change the world desperately needs.<\/p>\n

\u201cIt\u2019s not possible to live in the world and not change it,\u201d said LaMotte, author of \u201cYou are Changing the World Whether You Like It or Not<\/a>,\u201d published last year.<\/p>\n

\u201cThinking about the stories you tell in this TEDx talk and the songs you sing that are narratives, things don\u2019t happen in a vacuum. They are always in relation with something else,\u201d Davis said. \u201cWhether that\u2019s an idea or another person, we can\u2019t do this work by ourselves.\u201d Davis asked LaMotte about cultivating practices needed to do collaborative work.<\/p>\n

\u201cIt\u2019s not just because we live with each other, but because we\u2019re going to be utterly ineffective by ourselves. Movements really are what make things change,\u201d LaMotte said. \u201cThe ironic thing is when we study leadership, so much attention is given to the idea of how we express ourselves \u2014 how articulate we can be and how purpose-driven, etc., we are.\u201d Less attention is given to \u201chow we listen to each other and how we take input and have the ability to examine each other\u2019s perspective and develop empathy for other ways of looking at things, which is a really important part of peace and justice work.\u201d<\/p>\n

Far from \u201cbeating people over they head\u201d and \u201ctelling them to do right,\u201d justice work \u201cis about understanding how they came to where they are and what actually has led them to this worldview,\u201d LaMotte said.<\/p>\n

Protest, LaMotte said, is only half of activism. \u201cThe other half is building what\u2019s right and offering a better way forward,\u201d he told Davis. His favorite personal example is the decade he spent as part of Abraham Jam<\/a>, a band comprised of LaMotte, a Christian; Billy Jonas, who\u2019s Jewish; and Dawud Wharnsby, a Muslim \u2014 three \u201cbrothers\u201d from the three Abrahamic faiths.<\/p>\n

\u201cThe three of us were singing literally and figuratively in harmony, different notes that can resonate together,\u201d LaMotte said. When the bombardment of Gaza began following Hamas\u2019 attack on Israel on Oct. 7, 2023, \u201cI spent several weeks trying to write something about this, a statement I could get behind that would be constructive rather than destructive,\u201d LaMotte said. Then he remembered: \u201cI\u2019m part of Abraham Jam, and we have a particular place to speak\u201d as a Muslim, a Jew and a Christian.<\/p>\n

\u201cThe three of us, whose views on this conflict are not so far apart, actually worked a very long time to craft a statement<\/a> \u2026 and I feel good about the statement,\u201d LaMotte said. \u201cIt certainly doesn\u2019t answer all the questions, but I think it\u2019s an important part of the conversation.\u201d The reason it took LaMotte \u201cso long to come to the question is that it\u2019s not what I do \u2014 it\u2019s what we can do. That\u2019s a massive reorientation for the work at hand.\u201d<\/p>\n

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Asked by Davis about how we can work effectively with others in the heat of the current election cycle, LaMotte said it\u2019s \u201cobviously really hard. What we\u2019re trying to hold in tension is some deeply held beliefs. Making peace is not making nice.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cPretending everything is cool\u201d is \u201cnot peacemaking. It\u2019s not the work of justice,\u201d he said. \u201cHowever, dehumanizing other people is also not the work of peace of justice.\u201d The solution is to \u201cbuild relationships that can handle the hard conversations.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cIf I see light shining in your life and I see you are a kind and loving person, I want to know more about that. If you are those things and you have a different political affiliation from me, then I\u2019m really curious,\u201d LaMotte said. \u201cMy experience is, you are not going to be interested until you feel heard \u2014 not agreed with but heard.\u201d<\/p>\n

Davis asked what role finding a common vocabulary might play. \u201cTheological education gives us language to talk about the important things,\u201d he said, \u201cwhen we approach them from different perspectives.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cWords matter,\u201d LaMotte said. A friend, the writer Gareth Higgins<\/a>, talks about finding words \u201cthat mean the same things that aren\u2019t automatically triggering,\u201d he said. \u201cFor some folks, even the word \u2018justice\u2019 is a button-pusher.\u201d While it\u2019s a word that for LaMotte \u201cis woven deeply into the core tenets of the faith,\u201d it can be problematic for others. \u201cGareth said, \u2018You know the word \u201cfairness\u201d really means about the same thing, and it\u2019s a lot less confrontational for folks,\u2019\u201d LaMotte said. \u201cIf you can start from the idea that we both want the world to be fair, then that\u2019s pretty powerful.\u201d<\/p>\n

For his final question, Davis asked LaMotte, \u201cWhat\u2019s the best thing you\u2019ve heard lately?\u201d<\/p>\n

LaMotte said it\u2019s a song by singer\/songwriter Jean Rohe called \u201cNational Anthem: Arise! Arise!<\/a>\u201d It\u2019s a song he heard years ago and has recently returned to. LaMotte said he\u2019s about to do some work with Rohe. \u201cI don\u2019t know her well personally, but I\u2019m excited to get to know her better.<\/p>\n

\u201cI cry every time I watch it,\u201d LaMotte said. \u201cIt calls to the best part of me and my highest hopes.\u201d<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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