{"id":47320,"date":"2024-11-25T15:00:54","date_gmt":"2024-11-25T20:00:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.presbyterianfoundation.org\/?p=47320"},"modified":"2025-07-18T11:04:36","modified_gmt":"2025-07-18T15:04:36","slug":"leading-theologically-wraps-up-its-season-taking-a-fond-look-back-before-glancing-ahead","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/presbyterianfoundation.louderstaging.com\/ko\/resources\/news\/leading-theologically-wraps-up-its-season-taking-a-fond-look-back-before-glancing-ahead\/","title":{"rendered":"'\uc120\ub3c4\uc801 \uc2e0\ud559'\uc774 \uc2dc\uc98c\uc744 \ub9c8\ubb34\ub9ac\ud558\uba70 \uc55e\uc744 \ub0b4\ub2e4\ubcf4\uae30 \uc804\uc5d0 \ub4a4\ub3cc\uc544\ubcf4\ub294 \uc2dc\uac04\uc744 \uac00\uc84c\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In the most recent edition of \u201cLeading Theologically,\u201d which can be viewed <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=U-ok7Ext1-c\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"lightbox-video-0 noopener\">here<\/a>, the Rev. Bill Davis and the Rev. Zo\u00eb Garry take a look back at the most recent season\u2019s five broadcasts.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_47323\" style=\"width: 210px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-47323\" class=\"wp-image-47323 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/www.presbyterianfoundation.louderstaging.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Zoe-Garry-portrait-200x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/presbyterianfoundation.louderstaging.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Zoe-Garry-portrait-200x300.jpg 200w, https:\/\/presbyterianfoundation.louderstaging.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Zoe-Garry-portrait-683x1024.jpg 683w, https:\/\/presbyterianfoundation.louderstaging.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Zoe-Garry-portrait-768x1152.jpg 768w, https:\/\/presbyterianfoundation.louderstaging.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Zoe-Garry-portrait-1024x1536.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/presbyterianfoundation.louderstaging.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Zoe-Garry-portrait-1365x2048.jpg 1365w, https:\/\/presbyterianfoundation.louderstaging.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Zoe-Garry-portrait-480x720.jpg 480w, https:\/\/presbyterianfoundation.louderstaging.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Zoe-Garry-portrait-scaled.jpg 1707w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-47323\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><em>The Rev. Zo\u00eb Garry<\/em><\/p><\/div>\n<p>Davis is Senior Director for Theological Education Funds Development at the Presbyterian Foundation, and Garry is the Associate Director. Davis hosts \u201cLeading Theologically,\u201d which is released every other Monday. New episodes are planned after the new year.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOne thing that was so great about this season was the breadth of voices we got,\u201d Garry said, noting that the first offering was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Hf-1c1tTTdg&amp;t=537s\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Davis\u2019 talk with the Co-Moderators of the 226<sup>th<\/sup> General Assembly<\/a>, the Rev. Tony Larson and the Rev. CeCe Armstrong.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou could tell they had such great energy together even from the very beginning,\u201d Garry said. \u201cI love to see that. It\u2019s a great reminder that even with the breadth of experience we get, you can still enter into newness and have these opportunities and new relationships that we need to explore and learn about with our partners.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Davis\u2019 next guest was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=xs-I9vhJXBU\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"lightbox-video-1 noopener\">David LaMotte<\/a>, the musician, author, speaker and activist. When LaMotte spoke to Davis, he was fresh off <a href=\"https:\/\/www.presbyterianmission.org\/story\/its-committees-and-not-superheroes-that-change-the-world\/\">a viral TEDx Talk<\/a> on the importance of committee work for effecting change.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cDuring that talk I could hear Presbyterians doing their own little wave for the love of committees,\u201d Garry said with a grin. \u201cFinally, somebody sees the Presbyterians!\u201d<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s a false narrative to believe we have to do things alone in this country and rely on a hero to swoop in dramatically to fix our biggest problems, LaMotte says during his talk. \u201cI think that plays into our American culture of individualism, or even in the role our culture of American individualism has in our relationship with faith and God \u2014 it\u2019s me and my relationship with God,\u201d Garry said. But it\u2019s more than that: \u201cMe, my relationship with God and with God\u2019s people \u2014 the church and the community, and all of that,\u201d Garry said. \u201cI really appreciated the way he painted our need for community and constantly being in relationship with each other. That\u2019s actually where movement and progress happen \u2014 deeply in community and within those movements, and not in this individual hero ideal that we tell ourselves.\u201d<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_244359\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"width: 319px;\">\n<div id=\"attachment_244359\" style=\"width: 329px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-244359\" class=\"wp-image-244359\" src=\"https:\/\/www.presbyterianmission.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024-pns-RevBillDavis.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"319\" height=\"319\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-244359\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-244359\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><em>The Rev. Bill Davis<\/em><\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>The week after the conversation with LaMotte dropped, Hurricane Helene struck Western North Carolina, where LaMotte lives. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=ayM404BRnic\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"lightbox-video-2 noopener\">Davis then spoke live<\/a> with Richard DuBose, president of <a href=\"https:\/\/montreat.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Montreat Conference Center<\/a>, and Carol Steele, Montreat\u2019s vice president of programs. \u201cWe wanted to highlight how we can still be supporting our loved ones and colleagues in ministry in Western North Carolina,\u201d Davis said. \u201cWhether that\u2019s supporting Montreat or the ministries of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.presbyterianmission.org\/story\/two-pcusa-congregations-in-north-carolina-who-know-and-love-their-communities-are-caring-for-their-hurricane-affected-neighbors\/\">Black Mountain Presbyterian Church<\/a> or <a href=\"https:\/\/www.presbyterianmission.org\/story\/we-are-matthew-25-for-real\/\">Grace Covenant Presbyterian Church<\/a>, there\u2019s important rebuilding work that\u2019s happening in Western North Carolina. That takes all of us.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>As part of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=8XEiJ4rtbzs\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"lightbox-video-3 noopener\">Davis\u2019 conversation with the Rev. Brady Radford<\/a>, a pastor, counselor, coach and consultant, Garry took note of Radford\u2019s \u201camazing insights on the way our church is changing. He said there\u2019s no more carbon copy, cookie cutter ministry.\u201d For years, many Presbyterians have subscribed to \u201ca recipe that if we do this and this and this, then we\u2019ll have a thriving church,\u201d Garry said. \u201cWe really need that contextualization [that Radford spoke about] \u2014 in our churches, our communities, and even in our theological education. These invitations to creativity and reimagining, what ministry looks like in these different contexts, is really important.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOne thing Brady said is all ministry is transitional,\u201d Davis said. \u201cWe are going through a rapid, radical, hard transition \u2014 not just as a church, but as a nation, and it\u2019s hard work to be a part of it. I want to acknowledge that as well.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Davis had what he called \u201ca fascinating conversation\u201d with the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=CfCaPcTGt-U\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"lightbox-video-4 noopener\">Rev. Bethany Peerbolte<\/a> \u201cabout the changing technologies in media that we use in ministry.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOne thing I really appreciated about Bethany\u2019s perspective is she talked about social media in a positive way,\u201d Garry said. Davis said he appreciated how Peerbolte wonders \u201cif TikTok videos are a new parable form. If parables are meant to inspire us to a deeper meaning of God\u2019s kin-dom on Earth, what about those short videos subverts our cultural norms and expectations?\u201d<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=lvFgi3S71y8\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"lightbox-video-5 noopener\">Davis\u2019 most recent conversation<\/a> was with the Rev. Dr. Jos\u00e9 R. Irrizary, the president of Austin Presbyterian Theological Seminary, and the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ctsnet.edu\/about-us\/presidents-page\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Rev. Dr. Victor Aloyo<\/a>, the president of Columbia Theological Seminary.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe need to understand the way our churches and our communities are shifting. The churches that are growing the most are not the traditional communities that we think of,\u201d Garry said of Davis\u2019 discussion with the two seminary presidents.<\/p>\n<p>What struck Davis was \u201cthe stories of their growing up and the churches that formed them. Theological education doesn\u2019t start when we walk onto a seminary campus. Theological education starts from the moment we are baptized into a community, or start worshiping together, or walk into an adult education class, or go on a mission trip together.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think seminaries have a deep responsibility for spiritual formation, but most people don\u2019t go to seminary,\u201d Garry noted. \u201cMost people go to church, and most people have friends \u2014 and that is how they see and experience God, through those places and these people.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Davis said the early 2025 editions of \u201cLeading Theologically\u201d will focus on reconciliation. Conversation guides will accompany the new broadcasts. \u201cThat can be a tool for you to use in your ministry contexts as we wrestle with how God calls us to be one body in the world, witnessing to the light, love, grace and mercy of Jesus Christ,\u201d he said. \u201cWe look forward to being together soon.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><em>Learn more about the Theological Education Fund <a href=\"https:\/\/www.presbyterianfoundation.louderstaging.com\/resources\/theological-education-fund\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">here<\/a>.<\/em><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In the most recent edition of \u201cLeading Theologically,\u201d which can be viewed here, the Rev. Bill Davis and the Rev. 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